Thread:Justjackbros/@comment-108.76.109.252-20150212030452/@comment-25132749-20150301034737

H&#039;jar of Shadows wrote: Davin111 wrote: H&#039;jar of Shadows wrote: Davin111 wrote: 74.118.44.228 wrote: H&#039;jar of Shadows wrote: Davin111 wrote: 74.118.44.228 wrote: Davin111 wrote: Justjackbros wrote: 74.118.44.228 wrote: Here is a suggestion: if cywren and vahl fight, cywren would win No way, Vahl would use magic, shouts and enchanted weapons to kick Cywren's sorry butt to the cosmos! technology always beats magic, plus if  the Enclave was in skyrim they would be able to kill every one in a week plus if cywren has the think tank (old world blues dlc) on her side well...

"Any suffciently advanced technology is insdistinguishable from magic" Davin is right. Not even vahl can survive a bullet to the face or a frag grenade. Not to mention the nuke launcher. If you can kill anything in skyrim with a bow and arrow. than a gun would be op. Now that I am in the conversation, I would like to show how it would really work.

For Skyrim's defense: For Fallout's defense: Things both games share. Hopefully, I made a point. It's not skyrim vs fallout, it's vahl vs cywren. I was quoteing Arthur C. Clarke (a real person).
 * It was never proven that Technology could beat Magic, considering Magic isn't real, so Davin, whoever you're quoting is probably wrong.
 * Skyrim has naturally armored, fire and frost breathing dragons wandering the wild, bullets will not be as good.
 * Skyrim has Power Armor too, anyone heard of Daedric Armor? This armor was enchanted by the Daedra to give incredible defense.
 * There are Gods that support their worshippers in strength, smarts, beauty, crime, peace, etc. They're known as the Daedra and the Aedra.
 * Fallout takes place in the future, so it contains advanced technology, including Powerful Explosives, Power Armor, Energy Weapons, etc.
 * Since Robotics have been mastered in Fallout, there are robots all over Post-War America. Robots would be a good defense against Dragons.
 * For some reason I can't find anymore advantages for Fallout.
 * Both Daedric Armor and Power Armor are incrediblly strong.
 * Both the Enclave and the Aldmeri Dominion are "evil" "empires"
 * Both have experienced many wars that kill many people.
 * The Stormcloaks and the NCR are similar, the Imperial Legion and Caesar's Legion are similar.

Plus I think the think tank would end up kill the gods (most of their tech is insanely advanced) without even realizeing it. plus the fallout universe has lovecrafting gods (remember point lookout and the dunwhich building).also there are the killer halograms in the dead money DLC. and fallout universe has spaceships and aliens (kill sats and the UFO)

plus

"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science." (Spoilers) The Think Tank is dead. And I haven't playec the Dead Money DLC. um the think tank are the floalting brains you first meet, you can trick them into working for you at the end of the dlc. plus power armor was alot stronger in fallout 2 (the enclave can one hit kill you as well) and there is also a computer that can predicted the future. You can't kill the Aedra and the Daedra because they're immortal. Daedric Armor is also incrediblly strong. In Morrowind Daedric Armor had a base armor of 460, in Oblivion, 162 base armor rating, in Skyrim, 144.

You say the Enclave can one hit you in Fallout 2, but do they in Fallout 3? No. Plus the enclave is disbanded. The enclave in Fallout 2 was from an oil rig and at the hight of their power WAS the pre-war U.S. goverment. (fun fact the enclave wasn't supposed only appear in fallout 2).

(p.s. without the daedra or the aedra(sense they are gods) the fallout world (pre-war) would curbstomp the elder scroll universe.)